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Is 35 past it?

26 February 2008

Thanks to age discrimination legislation, banks are said to be hiring older bankers with all the zeal of teenagers purchasing alco-pops. Is this really true?

A study by financial services recruiter Joslin Rowe suggests older people (ie, anyone aged 35+) now account for 18% of people changing jobs, up from 14% five years ago.

The same study suggests that people aged over 56 are also moving into new finance jobs more freely than before – these days, the 56+ contingent account for 0.5% of people changing jobs, up from 0.1% in the ageist days of 2003 (a 323% increase, as Joslin Rowe’s PR points out).

Putting aside for a moment the question of whether 0.5% really represents a new paradigm in anti-ageism, do banks really want to hire older people?

The answer, sadly, is no. The chief exec of one front-office search firm says there’s a 90 year-old somewhere in the City, and there might be a bond salesman who’s had the same job for 20 years somewhere else, but on the whole banks are still clamouring for the elixir of youth.

“It’s all about control – it’s much easier to control someone in their 20s than in their 40s and 50s,” he says.

And if you lose your job once you’ve hit a certain age? Don’t count on walking into another one quickly.

Figures from Fairplace, an outplacement provider, suggest it takes a redundant banker an average of three months to find a new job. For people aged 50+ that time is doubled.

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If you are old and look old there is no hope...... If you are old but look young, groomed and normal and haven't got 4inch thick rimmed spec's then there is hope!

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  • A massive problem for investment banks and one that they are doing little or nothing  to resolve. Rather than come to terms with the fact that there are capable individuals aged over 30 out there, most IBs  are writing off individuals if certain boxes are not ticked / milestones reached by the time someone reaches a certain age. This attitude stems from front office but is also seen in hiring attitudes in ops and middle office. Incredible really considering the complete mess the industry has got itself into by not investing enough is local infrastructure and support (soc gen being a good example). 

    One of the reasons for this attitude in operations would be that a lot of the jnr managers are still in their 20's, hence there is real reluctance to hire an individual who is older and who may be a threat to the status quo.

    The sell side really needs to sort its act here and work harder at the diversity initiatives. Its the responsibility of HR to make sure this happens but also about time that senior FO business heads started getting involved, rather than burying their heads in the sand and denying any resposnibility for the downstream process

    Recruiter - IB 26 Feb 2008

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  • I dread that part of an employers application form where they ask your age and then mention they will not use this information in their hiring process??? 
    As soon as you respond White/British/40+ years....you know that application is filed straight into the bin!

    anon 26 Feb 2008

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  • I agree with the recruiters note above.  I took redundancy after 40 years in investment banking and whilst I still have much to offer, it is really difficult to get an interview (let alone a job).  Even more important to use all routes in: websites, networking, writing for ads direct, even cold CVs to named seniors in companies where you'd want to work.

    Coxy 26 Feb 2008

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  • it doesn't help when the recruitment professionals will not send candidates forward to the banks of a certain age usually 30+.

    anon 26 Feb 2008

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  • I have an MBA from a top school, extensive (highly successful)experience in a range of fields, wide technical, capital market, people and marketing skills. Can I get an interview? No way. It seems that as I have passed the 50 year old point, I'm persona non grata. While sometimes you get coded language from recruiters, the usual tone is silence. This is particularly true from some of the bigger very well known recruitment companies. They simply ignore people they think do not fit a age profile or image in the expectation they will avoid legal issues. Would love to see the government pull a "sting" on some of them and make some examples.  About time!!!!!!!!!

    James J 26 Feb 2008

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  • What do you mean six months for a 40 year old to get a job.  I've been out of work for two years!

    Anon 26 Feb 2008

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  • it is worrysome for all of us. (I am 30)
    In NY where finance has been around longer people tend to be older. It quite good when dealing with a crisis...

    Polo 27 Feb 2008

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  • Totally agree with anon/Fixed Income. Firms are too busy having to tick the other PC boxes (i.e ethnic origin) that if you are white and 40+, you are less contoversial to bin.

    Carl 27 Feb 2008

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  • Is everyone suggesting it's a bit like Lord of the Flies at most investment banks?

    Dave 27 Feb 2008

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  • Investment Banks say: "our people are our best asset", and ER departments pretend they keep managers under control regarding equal opportunities, fair treatment/pay, and age discrimination - How realistic is that someone who sits in a cost centre (ER/HR) can tell a manager in a revenue producing chair what to do? If push comes to shove - big revenue earners always "win".  Bottom line: when you hit a certain age and a certain (long) tenure, they want you out. Also if you've been in a firm for a long time and you are over 35, you are seen as "more difficult to manage", naturally you are more experienced and have more questions to ask.

    IBs could have a different attitude: capitalise on your experience, skills and your knowledge, but somehow they do not want to.

    CIPD stats show that by 2010 at least 40% of the workforce will be over 45 years of age.  I guess there are always "young guns" around willing to work 20 hours/day 7 days a week for 3 years or so.  People should not be treated like this.  Not too worried about senior people that financially do not need to work and therefore won't lose their homes, but what about "little people" over 35 in need of a decent job

    Donatella 27 Feb 2008

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