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Hungary for quants

26 July 2007

Anonymous

Morgan Stanley is hiring quants in Hungary. Are mathematically gifted types elsewhere about to go starving?

No, but it doesn't look great if you're a London quant hoping to make a packet on the back of your scarcity value. Morgan Stanley's website says it already employs 25 quants at its Budapest 'Mathematical Modelling Centre' and is looking for more. Recruiters say it shouldn't be hard to find them.

"Eastern Europe is now eclipsing France as the birthplace for quants," says Craig Fergusson, a quant-focused consultant at search firm Stephen Raby Associates. "There is a whole generation of Eastern-blockers who are exceptionally well-educated in mathematical systems."

They are also cheap. In London, Fergusson says an entry level quant is likely to command £30k to £40k base, plus a bonus of around 30% in the first year. By year three, he says the average London quant could be on £60k to £70k, plus a 60-70% bonus if he/she is lucky. In Hungary, he says, pay is likely to be significantly lower.

Hugo Sugden, a consultant at recruitment firm Selby Jennings, reckons Hungarian quants are paid around €35k, plus a negligible bonus of 20%. Banks are also setting up nests of quants in India, he says.

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Any respectable quant starting a career in Hungary will sooner than later attracted by London compensation level.

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  • Craig, i think the following comment is a little off the mark. this isn't what i'm offering my juniors to come on board and I think the last time i offered 30k on the base to anyone was to my cleaner! "In London, Fergusson says an entry level quant is likely to command £30k to £40k base, plus a bonus of around 30% in the first year"

    Anon 27 Jul 2007

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  • MS initiative is bound to fail:


    1. any quant cannot be fully effective if they are not directly interacting face to face with trading


    2. any respectable quant starting a career in Hungary will sooner than later attracted by London compensation level

    exotics trading 29 Jul 2007

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  • and what about the economists?

    Adam 13 Aug 2008

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