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Doctors on the waiting list to become bankers

7 January 2008

eFinancialCareers.fr

Forget the NHS (or even BUPA) – a growing number of medics aspire to careers in financial services.

“We’ve had quite a few applications this year from junior doctors looking to move into banking,” says Emma Halls, director of recruitment firm Finance Professionals. “Most of them are very mathematical and have excellent people skills. They are keen to go into research or quant focused roles, although we’ve also had a few who are interested in areas like product control and risk analysis.”

Halls attributes the upsurge in interest from doctors to problems earlier this year in the system used by the NHS to allocate junior doctors to training positions – at one point it seemed as many as 10,000 doctors would be left without jobs.

With NHS training places now allocated, Halls says interest from doctors has now tailed off, but not disappeared entirely.

A consultant at a rival research-focused firm says he too receives CVs from medics interested in moving into areas like pharmaceuticals, healthcare and biotech research.

However, making the move from medicine into banking may not be quite as easy as medics would like.

Although research teams have a history of hiring ex-medics, he says their appetite for former healthcare professionals isn’t what it used to be: “Nowadays, financial services experience is what counts. Most banks are more interested in taking on fresh medical graduates and training them up through their graduate programmes than hiring a doctor who’s been working for a few years and has no financial experience.”

In the current market, Halls confirms that doctors aren’t always banks’ flavour of the month: “The big banks tend to be concerned that they’re a second-choice career option. The easiest option for doctors is usually to go in on the bottom rung at a small boutique.”

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There is no longer any job security in medicine, so one of the main attractants is gone. You can't just waltz in and be a consultant and earn £100k+.

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  • I'm a medical doctor with my medicine degree from Oxford, and have been trying get into investment banking for more than two years now. I have had no luck. Infact, I have only ever been interviewed by one investment bank.

    My medical friends who have tried have faced the same problem. I think that the major issue is that there are so few healthcare focused investment banking / equity research roles. One pharmaceutical equity research analyst recently told me that he receives about a dozen CVs from doctors each week.

    It has really been impossible, and in the process I have wasted at least two years.

    I think that doctors do not really realise how difficult it is to get into investment banking and over value the fact that they are doctors. Others are not so impressed by our medical degrees, as we are ourselves perhaps.

    I would advise any doctor thinking of going into the financial services to be very careful. As you will more than likely waste years and end up nowhere.

    I am now going to apply for ST1 training this year - which from my experiences will be a lot easier.

    MBBCh 07 Jan 2008

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  • By the way, I an working in the NHS, and not Private Banking / Wealth Management as stated above.

    Thanks

    MBBCh 07 Jan 2008

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  • Did you try applying through an indirect route- ie. temping through a contractor? I started doing data entry in a photocopy centre in one of the main banks and after a few misses ended up in a finance department in a different bank doing product control after performing well on a data project for 21 months, as a temp!

    TK 07 Jan 2008

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  • This is hardly surprising:
    Doctors know nothing about financial statement analysis/financial modelling and have none of the requisite technical skills. Most will barely have used Excel.
    The only value-add of a doctor is that they are intelligent, work hard and have medical knowledge. But these days everyone is intelligent and prepared to work hard, so no added advantage there. Wrt medical knowledge your average doctor knows nothing about the drug development process, and would have no idea how to analyse a pipeline. Nor would they have the first clue how to value either a development programme or a whole company.
    A bank would be better off with a scientist with an accounting qualification, or a PhD that has a few years of consulting experience. Or a scientist with an MBA. Which is who they are hiring

    ExDoctor 07 Jan 2008

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  • MBBCh,
    Being a doctor is a much more nobler vocation than being an investment banker (even if it does not pay that well in the short run) so would advise you to stay on in the profession. Being in a bank is less glamorous than it seems. Can understand the frustrations of working in the NHS though!

    AL 08 Jan 2008

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  • I don't get it. Why a doctor would be a banker ? It non-sens, you need experience to ba a good investor or you need to have studied it. Even if you are a very good doctor you won't have the specific skills needed to be, let's say, an investment manager ? I think they just want to do it for the money, like all those who want to change their job at 40, how sad it is...

    And imagine if a banker came to a hospital and say : Guys, i have a finance degree from Oxford and i saw you're looking for a surgeon. I want to apply right now !

    I think they would laugh a lot...

    Garwin 08 Jan 2008

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  • In 99.9% of the cases, good doctors stay in the profession because they like it and it pays well if you are good at it. Why should a bank assume that a bad doctor can be a good banker? Failing to succeed in something else should not be a route in IB.

    Anon 08 Jan 2008

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  • why do you assume only bad doctors would try to become bankers?  I realized in medical school that while I enjoyed medicine, I didn't like the career.  I pursued an MBA at a top institution in order to have freedom in my career choice, and the opportunity to work internationally.  Currently I am doing the first year of surgical training- for personal, non-economic reasons.  I want to be part of healthcare on a much bigger field.  And yes, I've studied modeling and financial statement analysis, and have a fair idea of how to value pipelines (many ways, black shoals even) and companies.  Can't wait to start a new career, but yes, realize I lack experience and the MD isn't as much of a gold stamp on the resume as 'Goldman Sachs' would be- but still, it's mine, uncommon with an MBA, and I'm proud of it.  non-sequitur, sorry.

    oneiro 08 Jan 2008

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  • To be honest, I think doctors are just trying to switch purely for the compensation and all the hype they read in the media.  You really need to know what you're doing and enjoy it in order to succeed in banking.

    StudentLife4ever 08 Jan 2008

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  • 'Black-Shoals'! Superb!

    SUTR 08 Jan 2008

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