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SocGen fiasco to trigger stamp down on middle office moves?

24 January 2008

Sarah Butcher

Will SocGen’s rogue trader with ‘deep knowledge’ of its risk control procedures make it harder for middle-office staff to move to the front?

The Financial Times reports that the rogue individual, who made losses of €7bn on European stock futures and mortgage write-downs, was able to get away with it thanks to an awareness of risk control gained from his time in the middle office.

Nic Leeson was similarly endowed with middle-office expertise. And SocGen’s nemesis, Jérôme Kerviel, is unlikely to be alone in knowing how to fiddle the system: risk recruiters say transitioning from risk to trading isn’t uncommon.

“It’s usually the best risk guys who do it,” says Mandana Montazerian, a risk specialist at recruitment firm Selby Jennings, “those with a strong educational background, strong product knowledge, and good relationships with the traders.”

Will SocGen’s tribulations make banks more wary of promoting middle-office staff into trading roles in future?

Maybe not. “It’s just a question of having the right controls in place,” says an MD at a leading European investment bank. “SocGen appear to be saying that this guy knew their weaknesses – the point is that there shouldn’t have been any weaknesses.”

Banks may, however, be encouraged to revisit operational risk procedures in an attempt to prevent this kind of thing happening in future.

Paula Maiden, director of financial services recruitment at Robert Walters, says operational risk hiring is already buoyant thanks to regulations like Basel II.

However, operational risk professionals remain the poor relations: “Base salaries are 10-20% less than in market risk, and bonuses are typically 0-50% instead of 50-100%,” says Maiden.

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My theory is that Soc Gen have paid him off to accept more losses than the actual amount he lost so that they could cover up massive losses from elsewhere in their business, probably from CDOs.

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  • What do you expect from the French.

    HAH! HAH! --BANKER 24 Jan 2008

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  • well - bouton should be sacked. they clearly did not have proper systems in place. fire the whole management and also the auditors who should be shown the door

    hedgie 24 Jan 2008

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  • Well, I guess this is not uncommon in banks, I am sure there are similar things happening in other banks... Just look at the efficienies of JPM's Portsmouth Office for example.

    U 24 Jan 2008

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  • Definately a case of the sacker should be the sackee. Keep those body bags rolling....

    Digger in the dirt 24 Jan 2008

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  • Jerome give me a call, I've just the job for you....

    Desperate Headhunter 24 Jan 2008

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  • Hedgie,

    You fail to realise that the auditors probably had a part to play in uncovering the fraud: year end is 31 December 2007 and they should be in there already looking at the books.  FYI 2006 auditors were EY and Deloitte.

    Anon 24 Jan 2008

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  • Frenchs now ranks first in the "Best Trader losses", with 8.1 Bn, hard to beat ;-)

    Alex 25 Jan 2008

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  • a result of jobs for the boys ...things get over looked ...

    Bob 25 Jan 2008

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  • I cant but help feel that there is more to this Rogue Trader story than meets the eye.  The guy was reported to be on a combined salary of £100K which essentially makes him a relatively Junior Trader.  No junior trader would be unsupervised and no Junior Trader would even have the ability to make such losses even if he tried.  My theory is that Soc Gen have paid him off to accept more losses than the actual amount he lost so that they could cover up massive losses from elsewhere in their business, probably from CDOs.

    Trader 25 Jan 2008

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  • ey and D&T must be sacked. They didn't perform their tests of internal controls properly. why are millions of dollars paid to them annually ???

    fire auditors 25 Jan 2008

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