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The bottom-heavy world of credit derivatives quants

30 May 2007

Nic Paton

Junior quants all want to work in credit derivatives, and it's pushing down their pay.

According to a salary survey from recruitment firm Napier Scott, a credit derivatives quant at managing director level in a tier-one bank can now expect to take home a salary of around £140k plus a bonus of £865k.

An equity derivatives quant at the same level will pocket a similar basic, but a more diminutive £840k bonus.

However, as you move down the managerial food chain, equity derivatives quants come out on top. Napier Scott says an associate director in credit derivatives earns on average £85k plus a £95k bonus. By comparison, associate directors in equity derivatives earn £80k plus a handsome £140k bonus.

It’s all because junior quants want to go into credit derivatives rather than equities, says Shaun Springer, chief executive officer of Napier Scott. “The amount of business in equity derivatives has increased enormously in the past three to four years,” he says.

“Yet juniors are more likely to want to move into the credit derivatives arena because of the potential earnings at the end of it. So there has been a general shortage of people focusing on the equity derivatives side and it has been harder to attract people,” Springer adds.

He says the situation is likely to change as awareness of packages on offer in equity derivatives rises and junior quants flock to equity derivatives instead.

For both product areas, recent salary increases are liable to run out of steam.

“Salaries have been really high but, I think, are going to drop off a bit this year or next. These things tend to go in cycles,” says Rachel Biernacka, head of the quant desk at search firm Huxley Associates.

Average salaries: quants in tier-one banks

Equity derivatives

Managing director : £140k salary plus £820k bonus

Executive director : £110k salary plus £535k bonus

Director : £95k salary plus £250k bonus

Associate director : £80k salary plus £145k bonus

Associate : £75k salary plus £45k bonus

Credit derivatives

Managing director : £140k salary plus £865k bonus

Executive director : £100k salary plus £450k bonus

Director : £90k salary plus £200k bonus

Associate director : £85k salary plus £95k bonus

Associate : £70k salary plus £30k bonus

• Source: Napier Scott

Comments (6)

  • All about high pay nothing sexy but just a short cut to the retirement at 40 something and dedication to own passion out of the square miles

    Junior Quant 01 Jun 2007

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  • Just interested in some advice. I work in software development for a fixed income fund manager (2 year experience) and I am interested in becoming a Junior Quant at an Investment Bank. I work fairly closely with the front office and I have decent knowledge of the products. What is my best route into a quant position? What (short) courses can i go on ? My current academics include an Computer Sc. masters from oxbridge. I am not ready to start a phd or another masters.

    Paul D 05 Jun 2007

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  • Paul D,
    Get yourself on

    http://www.wilmott.com/categories.cfm?catid=16

    Panang 06 Jun 2007

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  • Im working for a central bank in Southern Africa and want to break in equity derivatives. Have a Finance and Banking Deg. What are my chances? Only have 2 yrs exp.

    Alfred M 06 Jun 2007

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  • Many thanks for the link, Panang.

    Paul D 06 Jun 2007

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  • No chance! Do a quantitative Msc!

    Alain 03 Apr 2008

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