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HSBC bonuses may be quite presentable

23 February 2009

Sarah Butcher

If you want to earn a lot of money, HSBC hasn't traditionally been the place to do it. This, after all, is the bank that popularized the widespread payment of zero bonuses back in 2003, when only 10% of its equity research staff (allegedly) were paid in anything resembling cash.

This year, however, things could be different. According to various sources, HSBC’s bonus pool is down by a mere third, while that of UK rival Barclays is down nearly 50% and RBS’s is virtually non-existent.

This relative generosity may be because HSBC’s global banking and markets division has actually been doing quite well. In the first half of 2008 it even achieved a profit of $2.7bn, thanks to its emerging markets, FX and rates businesses.

HSBC has also been restrained when it comes to headcount eradication. 1,100 people were cut from global banking and markets in September 2008, but subsequent reductions have focused on clerical and computer services staff.

Nevertheless, headhunters say HSBC’s investment bankers still aren’t in a particularly enviable position. ““They’ve been winning business by throwing their balance sheet at it, rather than relying on individual contacts and they didn’t pay very good bonuses in the first place,” says one M&A search consultant.

In this context, she says 30% down may still look fairly “crappy” compared to other banks.

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"30% down" is irrelevant when they were so pitiful during bull markets - we had Associates in sales/trading who got £10-20k!!!!

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  • What are you talking about? HSBC bonus numbers were announced 2 weeks ago and were AWFUL. "30% down" is irrelevant when they were so pitiful during bull markets - we had Associates in sales/trading who got £10-20k!!!!

    Disgruntled at HSBC 23 Feb 2009

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  • i agree - HSBC bonuses were communicated to staff 2 weeks ago....and were cr*p - they may only be down a third - but they have always paid less than the rest of the market - so in reality you wont get anymore over at Smug Bank...

    Alan 23 Feb 2009

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  • HSBC...should be rewarding people for open up current accounts. What are they doing in Global Markets?

    Jockster 23 Feb 2009

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  • true our bonus and coffee sucks but hey at least i have a job.. god knows for holw ong tho..

    stuck@hsbc 23 Feb 2009

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  • "HSBC’s bonus pool is down by a mere third, while that of UK rival Barclays is down nearly 50%"

    Sorry but this is SUCH poor journalism! HSBC paid appallingly during the best of times, whilst BarCap was an outstanding payer then - meaning that a Barclays bonus down 50% is still probably a MULTIPLE of an HSBC one down a third.

    My friend is an Associate in DCM and got £18k. Imagine being 25 years old and having £18k as a bonus..pathetic really.

    Sujit 23 Feb 2009

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  • Sujit: if you read the article to the end you will find that I agree with you.

    Sarah, Editor, eFinancialCareers 23 Feb 2009

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  • 18k > 0 ?

    Anonymous 23 Feb 2009

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  • Sarah,
    overall Global Markets Bonuses were around 60% down. Sales took a greater hit of closer to 65/70%. Associate and Managers on an average struggled to get more than 30/40k. Majority of ADs got less than 75k. Given that the average bonuses are already a fraction of what others pay, the disparity increased this year. Thus the morale or the severe lack of it is clear to see on levels 3 and 4. Not a bank that treats its people well

    higherupatHSBC 23 Feb 2009

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  • Why then is the title "HSBC bonuses may be quite presentable" when anyone with any basic knowledge knows HSBC is the worst bonus payer even in the best of times taking into account their mkt position.

    Jezza 23 Feb 2009

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  • HSBC sucks! its down 50% anyway!

    No chance 23 Feb 2009

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