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GUEST COMMENT: Business school’s out?

5 September 2008

Somerled Macdonald

The MBA has traditionally been a staple part of any financial services CV. But with the cost of attending business school getting higher, and the squeeze on City jobs beginning to pinch, does it still give young professionals the key to transform their career in finance?

The decision to go back to school is not one to be taken lightly. An MBA brings no guarantees, and students who study just to have it on their CV may ultimately regret it. Given the costs involved, candidates need to be certain that the qualification is really going to add value. The US schools in particular are phenomenally expensive, and while some firms do offer sponsorships to business school, the majority of candidates must still fund themselves.

Hefty outlay with no guarantees

The cost of taking a career break often means students end up with personal loans to the tune of £40k-£50k to fund two years in the States – a hefty outlay for no guarantees at the end.

The good news is that it is still a qualification that employers like to see.

Approximately 80% of top finance professionals have an MBA, and there is little doubt that it does develop more rounded candidates. It is a great way to develop, for example, a junior investment banker from a modelling junkie into a more commercially savvy individual. In addition, students benefit from an insight into the commercial and operational aspects of business.

The MBA provides a forum to combine financial skills with the operational management skill set needed in more senior roles. Harvard, for example, uses case study methods to provoke discussion as students from different fields of experience mix with each other. This closely replicates the business environment, where consultants, strategy consultants, people from the corporate world, bankers and hedge fund executives all work together and frequently benefit from one another’s experiences.

A network to die for

One of the big upsides of business school is that it gives students a phenomenal network. This is an important additional tool on top of the learning experience. The friendships and networks made will often play a useful role in furthering careers after graduation.

A word of warning, though: employers are increasingly selective about which schools they are prepared to hire from. With over 200 institutions offering MBAs in the US alone, choosing the right one has a huge impact on employment opportunities and salary expectations post-MBA.

Which b-schools have the edge?

On the financial services or private equity side, top firms tend only to look at Harvard, Wharton, Columbia and Chicago Graduate School of Business in the US. In Europe, INSEAD and London Business School also have good reputations, but the US schools certainly seem to have the edge. What student who commits to a one or two-year MBA aspires to be in a second or third-rate private equity firm?

School may not be out, but the question of which school is in has never been more important.

Somerled Macdonald is a partner at Redgrave Partners.

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Cambridge and the London School of Economics recently introduced Masters in Finance only because of the huge success of the MiF offered by the London Business School, of which they're actually copycats.

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  • Great article. Would like to know which reputation have Instituto de Empresa and IESE from Spain. Are they at the same level than INSEAD and LBS or it is still a long journey?

    Thanks,

    Jcmoron 05 Sep 2008

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  • It used to be fairly easy for someone with no financial (but other professional) work experience to use an MBA at one of the above schools to move into Investment Banking. Is that still the case?

    I'm considering an MBA for this reason but concerned I may not reach my goal and all the jobs will go to ex bankers/finance professionals.

    Yellow1 05 Sep 2008

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  • And how exactly do Columbia or Chicago have an edge on LBS or INSEAD? Please check any rankings, please check placement reports of these schools ... check anything and you 'll see an evidence on the contrary.

    Is there a way to make sure either people write only about topics that they have some knowledge on or at least write it in a tone that is clearly an opinion and not the conclusive statement. And the editor please do something about the quality of these columns. Most of the content here is superficial with no solid content at all.

    Harvard / Stanford(that you comfortably ignored) / and to some extent Wharton have extra advantage because of their solid alumni network. Beyond that LBS / INSEAD are better than any other schools you mentioned in any aspect - student quality, internationalism, faculty.

    Axesss 05 Sep 2008

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  • Apart from the US & European schools are there any Asian schools which standout internationalyy?

    Tigger11 05 Sep 2008

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  • Jcmoron,

    Instituto de Empresa as well as IESE are very good business schools with a strong network. They both have propelled themselves, in particular IE into the top 5-10 of the global rankings often leaving some of the top US schools behind them. Further there is an optimal price/quality ratio especially compared to the US. The fact that Mr. MacDonald seems to get stuck with a number of Anglo-American B-schools has probably more to do with the familiar arrogance coming out of that part of the world as well their ignoranceabout anything else that is happening in the rest of the world. And don't worry about your career: I did my MBA at IE long time ago, became a professor in finance at a top 5 business school and
    have my own multi-billion dollar emerging markets  PE fund., so you are gonna be fine.
    Don't let yourself be distracted by some of his comments, they are biased and should be meaningless to you.

    jaap 05 Sep 2008

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  • Strictly relating to IE and IESE, the first has done a fantastic job in marketing itself in last years: they look at any area taken into consideration in rankings (e.g. FT's) and set - and often reach - ambitious targets, even if they are succesful mainly in fields such as diversity.
    However, IESE has still a better and larger network with financial institutions: indeed, it should still be the third target for recruiters after LBS and INSEAD if we look at Europe-based B-Schools only.
    I'm biased by the fact I'm a IESE MBA, but actually it's much more common to find IESE graduates than IE ones in London (looking at I-Banks, PE Firms, Hedge Funds).

    JJ 05 Sep 2008

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  • Will you guys stop being pedantic.  An MBA from Harvard, Wharton, Columbia, Chicago, Stanford, MIT, LBS and INSEAD will provide roughly the same level of recognition.  What will differentiate you will be your past experience, your skills, your past academic history and you as a person.

    Stop wasting time arguing about Chicago vs LBS because the fact is both are good schools and both will be as good as each other on your CV.

    IESE is also a good school but slightly behind the others mentioned purely in terms of prestige.  However an IESE MBA will get you into finance if you have the other important qualities.

    As for Asia, if you want to work in the west stick with the US schools.  I dont think any Asian MBA has international recognition.

    Trader 1 05 Sep 2008

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  • "Approximately 80% of top finance professionals have an MBA"

    Yeah right!!

    Feel so sorry for MBAs starting in banking - they only start in at Associate level and they're aged about 30. Lol that's so pathetic, the rest of us get made Associate age 22-24.

    Henry 05 Sep 2008

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  • ...feel so sorry for those who think to be masters of universe and know evrything after having been made Associate age 22-24.

    I'm a bit older and proud of my MBA, even if I know I'm still catching up with those with a number of years already spent in finance.

    JJ 05 Sep 2008

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  • I have yet to work with an MBA associate that can not be categorised as "Mediocre but arrogant". Why are these guys always an utter dissapointment, and actually most of the time leave the firm after 1-2 years of poor work, paltry bonus and numerous fights with other analysts and associates?

    Speaking for M&A here, i suppose they do just fine in consulting & corporates. Any views?

    wolf 05 Sep 2008

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