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ALPHA FEMALE: I’ve been fired, what should I do?

8 October 2008

Anneke deBoer

There are now literally thousands of unemployed bankers in London. Some, but not all – or probably not even most – will find jobs in banking. What else can the others do?

If politicians and central bankers are to be believed, the UK economy isn’t going to come out of this quickly. So, while some unemployed 'star' bankers may well be snapped up by other firms 'upgrading' their staff, many will not find employment in banking in the near future. Those who do may find that banking is not as financially rewarding as it was in the past.

It's true that there are few jobs as lucrative as banking has been, but there are jobs out there that unemployed bankers can do – and do well – if they think laterally and creatively about it.

So how can you acquire one?

It won’t be easy, and initially you’ll have to take a pay cut. I’d start with thinking about what your transferable skill set is – what did you study at university? What specialty did you have in your job? What did you like doing/were you good at doing in your job?

What degree did you study at university? Many derivative specialists are referred to as 'rocket scientists' because they studied physics or engineering or something else incredibly technical or quantitative. There are lots of companies crying out for qualified people like this. The government is bemoaning the lack of science and engineering skills in the UK. Quite often, technical geeks don’t have great interpersonal skills or business skills – so if you are a more complete package, while you may start off junior in a corporate job, you are likely to progress faster than your peers.

What was your specialty in your banking job? Did you cover commodities? How about working for a commodity producer? Or being a commodity buyer for another industrial company? Were you in corporate finance covering medical companies? How about looking at a job with them? Or a medical devices company? Or focusing on healthcare issues for an insurance company?

What did you like doing? What were you good at? Were you in debt capital markets covering borrowers? So you liked building relationships with your clients – how about trying to be a relationship manager in another area? Were you in corporate finance? Then you were a project manager bringing together the various areas of your firm. Did you like preparing proposals? How about writing some freelance articles on the industry?

I don’t want to suggest that any of this is going to be easy. It isn’t. Retooling yourself requires lots of thought, soul searching and financial strain. However, if you were mediocre – or even good – in your job and are now in a contracting industry, it may be time for you to rethink your career choices and expectations.

Anneke de Boer is a former managing director of Morgan Stanley’s fixed income and debt capital markets business in London. She retired in 2006.

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The idea of our children, the future of this country, being taught by thousands of reckless ex-bankers who were driven solely be greed fills me with dread for the future morals of our youngsters who come into contact with them.

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  • I believe that you are making it sound all too easy. Few Bankers have any transferrable skills for Industry and we all know that our characters will not make us that welcomed as colleagues in a more "normal" environment.
    Teaching might be a way back into employment.
    Alas, being scared of saying what one once did for a job will not help in interviews.
    Why oh why didnt Nomura try and lock me in !!!

    noprospects 08 Oct 2008

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  • noprospects.

    The idea of our children, the future of this country, being taught by thousands of reckless ex-bankers who were driven solely be greed fills me with dread for the future morals of our youngsters who come into contact with them.

    Furthermore, these people may give career advice to said kids, talking about the good ol' days, thus grooming another generation to go into the industry and take part in the next fiasco.

    PLEASE STAY OUT OF TEACHING BANKERS

    mikey 08 Oct 2008

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  • What to do next? It depends. If you are a young, female ex-banker and reasonably attractive then there is no shortage of career options.

    John 08 Oct 2008

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  • john, to some extent, what you recommend is not that different from being an investment banker

    vv 09 Oct 2008

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  • Exactly. The female ex-bankers have the perfect skill set to transition into their new careers. The pay is very good too (so I hear)......

    John 09 Oct 2008

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  • why don't you just retire?

    Albert Adler 09 Oct 2008

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  • there is a spot for everybody sooner or later.. back in 2002 when we had many rounds at JPM chase more than half of my work friends got fired in the end..

    except for one, now running a bar in saigon, all found new jobs.

    nobody went straight into another buldge bracket.. one guy went to a good 2nd tier and than to BB again. now out of  job, but he made enough money..

    4 (good guys) went into PE. 3 got laid off again along the way. One does very well and likes it..

    a couple guys went to M&A boutiques. this did not work out for any of them.. not a good road - although somewhat obvious..

    and a big number went into corporates.. did not follow these chaps (they do not participate in the alumni thing).. but most are still where they went.. things are slow there, pay seems borderline (compared), but they have arranged.. obviuosly there is not a real road back..

    so hope this gives a bit of perspective.. think where you go as not from every place will be a ticket back on the gravy train..

    hanging in there 09 Oct 2008

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  • @hangin in there -

    I admire your optimism, I have the same basic attitude as you. But mate, how this shakeout is going to pan out nobody really knows. The 2003-2007 phoney 'boom" just delayed the proper crash and recession we should have had after the dot-com boom. Anneke deBoer is right, a lot of people will have to reinvent themselves as someone new, which means leaving banking for good. That won't be easy. You have to remember that a City financier is at the end of the day, just a speculator.  He puts his (or other people's) money where his opinions are. This type of work is a very, very small part of the global economy and I get the feeling this time around we probably won't have a short, shallow recession.

    Andrew 10 Oct 2008

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  • This shakeout will completely change the way the world viewed Bulge Br banks and their roles in our economies, thus leaving very few people engaged in their roles and limited potential for new comers..So it is better to refit & reposition the skills or just manage your own  business..

    Ex Ibanker 11 Oct 2008

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  • My opinion is that we are about to witness a new global financial system, with new set rules and stronger, tighter regulations hopefully..
    Having worked in the City long enough to understand how the whole Financial market works, I can say without a shadow of doubt that I have been very very disappointed by the quality of the so called "talent" in this industry. Talent doesnt do into banking driving the whole system close to collapse. As per my understanding, talent goes to serve humankind. I hope this crisis will be just as long and painful as we need and judge it to be not because I am some kind of sadist, but because I honestly think we people need to change for the better and re-invent ourselves in much more fulfilling fields.

    Amine Ifri 09 Nov 2008

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